You Can't Outperform Your Self-Image: Why Strategy Alone Won't Lift the Ceiling Your Beliefs Built

0:04 Ahoy! Captain David Gallimore welcomes you aboard the Regenerate Show, live Mondays, 10 a.m. Pacific on K4HD Radio at K4HD. com. Now, here's your host, Captain Dave, your personal regenerator. All aboard! Ahoy! And welcome to the Regenerate Show. I'm your personal regenerator, Captain Dave. I love, love, love talking about regeneration, and some of you may not know that definition. It's really based on 3.8 billion years of the logic of life and what can we do as individuals to create more renewal and more vitality. So I think there's an opportunity today to learn from Stacey Berger about what we can do to improve ourselves, find our purpose, and create greater impact in the world. Stacey has been a corporate person over 16 years, working in boardrooms, working in the corporate challenges.

1:16 About 10 years ago, she was helping purpose-driven, hardworking women trying to create better lives for themselves, their families, and their clients. But realizing, as I've certainly realized, in the five years since I left the corporate crazy, how that can be consuming and how challenging it can. Be to. Put our own masks on first and to create the conditions, the environment for us as entrepreneurs, as solopreneurs, as company leaders and owners to flourish, because then we bring our best selves to others. So I'd like to please welcome Stacey to Regenerate Shell. Hey, Dave.

2:02 I love the word regenerate and what that means. So looking forward to our conversation today. Me too. Now you're coming from Canada, from Edmonton, Alberta. I am. And I don't know if my listeners know this. You certainly don't know this, but my mom, Bobby, she grew up in Toronto and we spent quite a few summers when I was growing up in Muskoka, in Northern Ontario. And right now, to be completely candid, I'm identifying much more with my Canadian roots than I am with my American roots. So if you hear me say a boot or a or garage, just know there's some Canadianism that's coming out because I'm hanging with you today. Got it.

2:50 Love it. So just to help our listeners get to know you a wee bit, what's that one thing, Stacey, what do you love? What lights you up? What lights me up, I would say, is human potential and all things. I call it the invisible side of success. And if there's one topic that I love to talk about and could talk about for days, it's really kind of that, that invisible side of success. How do we create results? Like all things, spirit and universe, whatever name you, you give to it. I would say that's at the core of everything that I do and everything that I stand for and bring into my life.

3:36 Excellent. Yeah. I, I think there's so much like layers of an onion. There's so much rich discovery there. around identity and self-worth and limiting beliefs. I know that's been a lot of my journey the last four and a half years, and I think there's still many more layers to go. So good for you that you're doing that work yourself, but also sharing the messy middle, which is part of the reason for the Regenerate show. We don't want to be as performative as other shows might be. It's all about man, I really tried this and it didn't work. Or boy, here's something that really worked for me and I just want to share that with you.

4:18 And I hope that you'll feel this is a safe environment to share what works and what doesn't work in this messy middle. So another question that our listeners frequently ask, and I do this on their behalf, is what's your origin story? What experiences have shaped you? you know, maybe less than two or three hours. So five or six minutes. So what's your origin story? Yeah, it's a big question. And it's so interesting looking back now with what I know today and realizing, oh, these were pivotal moments in my life that really created kind of those core beliefs or what I'm doing now.

4:59 And one of them started probably when I was about eight years old. I did not grow up in a spiritual home. I did not grow up in a home with, um, We didn't go to church, but I was around it with extended family members. And I always enjoyed going to this church or that church or this Bible camp with a friend, right? Kind of unattached to it. But I was at a very young age, able to discern that, Ooh, this resonates with me. This doesn't without like holding onto it. So I don't have a lot of, I'm going to say baggage that a lot of people come with, with their, their spiritual upbringings. But about eight years old, I remember laying in bed and having the thought about, well, when I die, like I understand like my body dies, but what happens to the part of me that thinks? And that I'm going to call it spiritual curiosity, right? Knowing that I'm so much more than this physical body. I didn't have words for it. I didn't know exactly what that meant. But I just knew. There was just this innate knowing I'm so much more than this physical body.

6:03 So I would say that's a core origin piece. The other core origin piece is my family was entrepreneurs. So my mom and dad owned a small business. And watching their journey as a child, very interesting. I have a very different perspective as an adult and as a business owner now. But as a child, it was feast or famine. It was work really hard, work really long. Sometimes there was, you know, Christmas, more Christmas presents. Some years there wasn't. And just like what it meant to be a business owner and an entrepreneur. And it's I think that really shaped what I wanted to do, what I didn't want to do, what that looked like. And that's certainly impacted where I am today. So I would say those two pieces looking back were very pivotal in my origin story and my perspectives and beliefs about those two things and now how I bring that together. So I want to pause there and maybe you have a follow-up question for.

7:06 Me in that. Mm-hmm. Well, I think it's fascinating how your introduction to bigger questions. I came a little bit later. Of course, we all know that guys are a little bit slower than gals in this regard. But I went to like church school camps and I got to be outdoors in nature and really found a spiritual connection in that regard. And seeing the trajectory of life in the forest, and there's both birth and growth and decline and then death, which is basically creating the nutrients for the next cycle to begin all over again. And when I was in college, I explored all sorts of different faiths. What would you call that?

7:59 Religious curious? Spiritual curious? Being a seeker, right? There you go. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. And then I had the privilege of taking a comparative religion course. And I started to realize that across all these different formal religious faith traditions, this is kind of a rough, you know, approximation, but 80%, a lot of common and 20%, you know, human language, ceremony, you know, all of the stuff. the trappings, if you will, of these different faiths. But the universal needs of peace and love and security and thinking about others other than ourselves.

8:49 And that was, to this day, I still am a seeker. And hopefully I'm not too much of a mashup that I'm a dog's breakfast all over the floor. But I do feel that there are some threads now that at 64, have helped me through the rough times. Has that been for you? You draw your strength and faith during the challenging times of life? Absolutely. And similar to you, I would say I was probably, you know, early 20s where finally I heard somebody speak and I went, oh, they're finally putting words to what I've always believed, right? You have thoughts, you have ideas, but you can't quite articulate it. And, and then it was all of a sudden it was put into words in a way that there was just a resonance. The way I described it, like truth is truth is truth, right?

9:39 There's many paths. Um, I, yeah, I love studying the different faiths and, and the common denominator is, is there. And when we can get past some of the, the dogma, the ritual, and you know, at the end of the day, we're all humans with, needs and desires. And there really is, I call them invisible laws, that once we understand those and learn how to harness them, we just like in nature, right? Life just becomes a lot easier and a lot simpler. But we're not taught that, right? We're really not taught that. And so. Yeah, that's why I'm doing what I'm doing today.

10:21 And this bridge that I think is, at first time you hear it, how you described it, it seems like they're not connected. But in my experience, oh my gosh, they truly are. And I think the work that you're doing after studying your digital, doing my cyber stalking of your digital work, and also, which we're going to talk about after the commercial break, Um, you were, um, I want to say it's principles purpose. Sorry. I should know it off the top of my head. What's, what's your program on October 23rd? Yeah. So passion to purpose is one of the programs that we run.

11:02 Yeah. Thank you so much. Yeah. So the passion to purpose, you know, looking deeply at that website over the weekend. So I can see how you like, I realized that these things are not inseparable, but, um, One plus one is 11, or they're multiplicative. And so for me, the entrepreneurial journey did not start young. My dad was a Boeing engineer, very much a corporate guy. When I was growing up trying to do entrepreneurial things, I kind of got this message like, why are you doing that? Just stay focused on doing well in school. And then you'll get a really good job and then do really, really well in your job. And you'll get to buy a bigger house than you can afford. And you'll get married and you'll have kids and a dog. And, you know, that kind of 1980s tail end of boomer values. And Stacey, I have been disentangling, reverse engineering, freeing myself from that world to trying to find, you know, who I truly am.

12:11 Beginning with core values like love, adventure, creating, building, leadership, and impact. If I'd known those six words 25 years ago, oh my God. Well, you're not alone, right? Most of our belief system is developed within us before the age of eight. And so that influence of our upbringing really influences that self-image, the beliefs, what do we believe about the world, ourselves. And entrepreneurs, so people who have that entrepreneurial spirit, they're often the black sheep of the family, right? They're not understood. They don't fit into that family paradigm. And so it can be very isolating, very alone. And finding community and support is, it's like, oh, I'm not alone in this, right?

12:59 But often that doesn't come from family, which is quite fascinating. Yeah. And that limiting belief, if I may... put a label on it has really defined. I think many of the struggles that I have, like when results aren't happening, like I need them to happen or want them to happen. And perhaps your clients, you can relate to this and you yourself it's easy to say, Oh, maybe I'm not cut out to be a solopreneur. Maybe I should just go back and do what's known and comfortable. Yeah. What's safe. Yeah. Well, and I want to speak to the person who is in corporate. And I think this is interesting too, because as entrepreneurs, sometimes we can judge, you know, people in corporate and who want to be employees. There's no right or wrong. Being in corporate isn't bad. Being an entrepreneur isn't good or bad, but it's really finding your path and what's in the way from you living into your path. So I think that's another thing that's important is like our parents' path wasn't right or wrong. It was their path, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's ours.

14:09 Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. So I'm going to ask Rebel to put in the show this URL for your program. And even before the commercial break, I'm just really, really curious about what, problem did you see either in your own life or or with clients that you felt wow there's a gap here that i really feel i'm uniquely qualified to help close what what was the catalyst for your program Yeah, it's interesting. So you mentioned in my bio, I climbed the corporate ladder. So I was in corporate for 16 years. I also had this spiritual personal development path happening, but they were very different, right? It was like one was Monday to Friday, one was the weekends. And I saw those as very different.

15:03 I didn't realize that I was successful in corporate because of the other thing, right? I didn't make that correlation. Yeah. And, and it was when I started, I started to really understand and, you know, in 2008, really starting to dive into transformational principles. How do we create results? And I started to see this formula and it really is formulaic and how we create results. And then I could look to our business and say, oh, this is why this person got results. This is why that person didn't. This is why this succeeded in my life. This is why they didn't. And I, it was like having this bird's eye view where all of a sudden, like it was almost matrix and you could see things coming together. And, and, and I have such a passion and a love for business.

15:52 I love talking about business. Let's like break it down. What do you do? And I walk into an operations and I'm like, how does this thing work? Right? So that passion for operations plus the mindset and the spirituality piece I would say that's my unique perspective is oftentimes we have the mindset coaches, right? And people who understand that, but it stays very esoteric. And then we have like the business consultants who are very practical. And so the gap for me was let's bring these two worlds together and realize there's no separation. Yeah, very well said. And Is this program that's coming up on the October 23rd through the 25th in Edmonton that's live? Is this the first of these, or have you done these in various incarnations before?

16:39 Yeah, various incarnations for 12 years. This is our 10th one in this version of it. Okay. And I do want to say it's also virtual. So in person in Edmonton, but we have an audience that joins us virtually as well. So it's a hybrid experience. Oh, I'm so glad you mentioned that because that would open it up to help a lot more people. Much more accessible. Yeah. Yeah, that's awesome. So the thing that really caught my eye right at the very beginning on the website was your why for your program. I really love this. You've built something meaningful, but somewhere along the way, your business began asking for more of you than you want to keep giving. Man, can I relate to that? So spend three transformational days reconnecting. I think that's a powerful word, reconnecting.

17:33 It's not like you're having to create something. it's like becoming more aware of listening deeply to the voice inside that usually tells us the truth when we're willing to reduce the cacophony of, of, of noise to listen to the signal. And then you said, you know, reconnect with what you truly want, uncovering what's keeping you stuck and creating a clear plan. So you and I, I think are very much kindred spirits. It's one thing to talk about this stuff and, you know, oh my gosh, wouldn't it be great if, but if that doesn't translate into some simple actionable next steps, even if it's just one next, one next step, then it becomes a dream unrealized rather than a transformation that people have agency to, uh, with support, right?

18:29 Nobody does this alone. It takes a village. So, um, When you think about what success really looks like at the end of the three days, do you mind just kind of recapping for our listeners? What is the promise that you're wanting to provide? Yeah, well, I would first of all say, you know, a lot of times people hear three days and they're looking at their calendar and they go, where am I going to squeeze three days in? So I get it. And most of us take more time planning a weekend away than we do our lives, right? And we haven't prioritized if you wanted to build a new house, you're going to go to an architect or designer and you're going to create some blueprints and you're going to work with them to make the adjustments. And what does that look like? And we understand the value of having a great blueprint if we're building a house. But we haven't spent the time or invested the time to build a blueprint for our lives and for our business. So maybe you have a business plan where you have... a strategic plan, very different than a vision. And so that investment of three days, I would just say will return to you for the rest of your life, because you're going to really have that blueprint, not just for your business, not just for your career, but for your health and your relationships and your time and your money freedom. And so success looks like having that really clear vision. It also looks like, okay, now I understand what's what the blocks are.

20:00 And spoiler alert, it's you, right? You've been using the term limiting beliefs. We cannot outperform our mindset. And so the mindset that's created today's results is not the one that's going to take us into the next level. So how do you update and upgrade that mindset to be more in harmony with where you want to go? And then to your point, Dave, great to have a plan, but if you never take action on it, then what? but there, there's a system that I take people through. So it's not like, well, how am I going to do this? It's, Oh, here's how I'm going to do this. Here's the formula to figure out what my move is, what my step is. And to do that in a way that feels life-giving rather than just more pressure in a to-do list.

20:48 One more thing to do. Yeah. Yeah. Well, good. So, um, Rebel and I have been communicating to see if that clip is okay to use. Rebel, if it is, let's go to that commercial. If not, we'll have you, Stacey, give us a voiceover. Oh, here we go. Here we go. We all have that voice within us, something that's calling us to be more, to do more, to have more. But most of us don't know to listen to that voice. And the way that she is able to find out exactly what is going on with you and to give you the proper guidance and direction has moved mountains for me.

21:35 Within a couple of months, things had already started to move in the direction of my vision and of my dreams. It's priceless. She inspires you. She gives you the step-by-step. You have practical tips of how to move yourself forward, whether it's in your career, with your family, with your relationships, with your health. The ideas, the concepts that Stacey gives us to work with have an expert guide in taking you deeper into your dream. Most likely, you don't really know how to articulate what your dream is, how to create a vision. And then we put pen to paper and there's a lot of note taking that happens. Build an action plan and then go out. And execute on it.

22:18 No matter where you are, just to know that you are meant for more. You are more capable than you know. I know lots of people that have been here that they wanted something to happen in their business. And by the end of the weekend it's happened. The potential for you to create those results faster, that's why you're going to be here. To understand why we self-sabotage, how those limiting beliefs get in our way. It's a very specific process to know what action steps are going to move you forward so you know exactly your next move to make on your dream. And I never understood why I would always fall back to my old ways of thinking just by coming here this weekend. Like in the first day, it taught me why I keep falling back.

23:02 I have gotten clarity on what I really want in my business. I then stepped into something that is completely jazzing me up. I love what I'm doing. It's an event that changed my life five years ago. I come every single Passion to Purpose I have been for the last five years. I encourage everyone to say yes to themselves and to give themselves the opportunity to dream. You came in here one person, but the person who leaves here, where you know that by means of investing these three days, you are different. You're one decision away from a totally different life. Wow.

23:56 Wow. Wow. That's, that's empowerment right there. Yeah. Putting yourself in that room, either in person or virtually and enter in really is a gift to yourself, right? Where we turn off the noise, we turn off the interruptions. And to your point, Dave, right, we really listen to what's seeking to emerge. And yeah, powerful, powerful community and understanding, again, the laws of success, right? And how do I harness those and live more from our potential rather than our conditions and our circumstances? Thanks for sharing that.

24:39 You're very welcome. It's really well put. thought through and beautifully produced. So can I call you the Tony Robbins, Canadian Tony Robbins for women and men and business innovators? Yeah, you wouldn't be the first, right? And I would say it is a world-class event. We don't get quite the numbers that Tony is getting at his events, but. It's- Dot, dot, dot, yet. Yet, yeah, yet. Yeah. I think about a story that I heard about Tony Robbins. His first paid speaking engagement, he had reserved a fairly large hotel conference room and one person, one paid customer showed up And it was a full day, if I recall the story from Tony. My wife, Margaret, and I attended his five-day live event in San Jose, including walking over frickin' hot coals. But he gave that day as if there were 5,000 people in that hotel conference room.

25:47 I have a very similar story when I first started out. And.... These are the points that you said, what's the messy middle? Oftentimes people come to this event and it's highly produced and you know, there's hundreds of people in the room and, and they don't realize what went into creating that. And I was hosting an event. I rented a little event space, you know, brought my muffins and coffee and had my screen and my projector and had sent out the flyers and the newspaper ads. This was, you know, a little bit pre social media and, And my husband dropped the kids off at my parents. They were babysitting and went to open the doors and nobody came. And there was a part of me that wanted to go home and cry.

26:36 And I was embarrassed, right? I knew I was going to go home. I was going to pick up my kids and my mom and dad are going to be like, how did it go? And And I didn't want to have to say nobody came. But I had great mentorship. And this is the power of coaching. This is the power of mentorship. And the mentorship I had is teachers teach, speakers speak, coaches coach. And I delivered that talk to an empty room, plus my husband, because that's what a professional does. And it's the willingness to speak to an empty room. And to do the raps that put the hundreds of people in the room, right? We don't start there.

27:16 And it's the willingness to do that when we're not seeing the results and to trust the process. And it's hard. It is hard. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Wow. Good on you. I don't know that I would have had the character in that moment to have done what you did. hopefully you were able to videotape. So you got some additional B roll. Yeah, I've got a real one picture and I'm so grateful for that picture because I think that version of me all the time. Oh, that's so, that's so inspiring. Yeah. I think of, I've, I've put in a frame, the first, you know, $ 5, 000 check that I got from a client when I first left Boeing. And, uh, a reminder when the results aren't flowing. Well, they did back then. They'll come again. You have to trust the process, like you said earlier. Well, I know time is never our friend, and you've got a lot on your plate. We've got about 15 minutes, and I'm wondering, I'm curious if you'd be willing to maybe use me as an example of one of the ways that you work with clients, either one-on-one or in your live program, if I was to just take two minutes to share with you the struggles that I'm currently facing, and if that's of interest and you have, you know, a little diagnostic that you like to do, would that be fun?

28:49 I would love that. Let's do it. And we'll, and we'll time boxes. Cause I also want to leave a good, you know, five minutes at the end. So we'll time box fixing Dave. No, no, I'm not to be fixed. I just need to be more aware and reframe and keep showing up. But the last five minutes, thinking about what's that one thing that you didn't get yet to share that you would really value sharing with our audience? And then what's that kind of concrete next step in addition to signing up for the October 23rd through the 25th live program? So let me give you just a quick overview of some of the challenges that I've been experiencing. So you can probably appreciate this, because I think I saw this in your own bio, which is burnout from the corporate world. I was leading what my wife used to call high adrenaline, high risk, high reward programs, the last one being the $ 930 million program.

29:59 a dollar smart meter program up in British Columbia, where my teams were delivering four years worth of work in two years, which we did. We accomplished that objective. And it was probably the highlight of my career. But it did take a lot. And so since then, I've been uncovering, like an archaeologist in a very dusty dig, the core values that I mentioned earlier. My ikigai, are you familiar with that term? Nope. So the reason for being, yes, I. Am familiar with that. Yeah. Thank you. The Japanese. What am I passionate about? What am I gifted at doing? What does the world need and what can I be well compensated? And I add to the well compensated, what creates, you know, thriving, flourishing, like for me, freedom and opportunity to make a bigger impact. In addition to financial compensation.

30:57 And then professional brands. So I'm an explorer, probably no surprise. Kay Putnam, she has this really simple, but I think really fascinating assessment about personal brands. And she's kind of distilled this branding into 16 different brand personas, like sage, lover, girl, boy next door, maverick, magician. So I identified most with, with explorer. So as a result of that inner work, or at least the start of that inner work, uh, I pivoted from the corporate crazy to teaching sailing and being out in nature and creating world peace one sailor at a time, because you can't be grumpy and on the water at the same time. And I had had a side hustle while I worked for Boeing. Um, and while I was also a business profit, Seattle university creating a program for women on welfare to get off of welfare.

31:57 by working with business and law students from the Seattle University's graduate schools and giving them a hand up instead of a handout. And I love, love, love this work of being a regenerative life leadership and business coach and teaching sailing. And then recently this year with Rebel Meddler's help and Dean Piper from Talk4Media, you know, kind of putting my toe in the water to do this media hosting stuff because not everybody can afford my one-on-one bill rate, but I wanted to have a positive impact on especially next generation leaders. And I think about my 32-year-old son, Ian, and my 29-year-old daughter, Catherine, and others that are frankly really challenging, really challenged by the world that we boomers apparently are leaving. And before I tip, I really want to clean up the mess that I created. So the challenge that I want to put in front of you, this is the end of my rant, is as a solopreneur, I get up every morning, Stacey, and feel just that continuous overwhelm. I could pick up my list of people that I reached out to a couple weeks ago and follow up. I could work on my marketing information. I could refine my website. I could double down on really doing better diagnostics with a new client and making sure that I come, you know, really, really well prepared. I could,

33:28 you know, there's just a thousand and one things and I'm neurodiverse ADHD. And, and sometimes that wiring has been incredibly helpful because I can see the interrelationship. I'm, I'm a more of a systems thinker. I think you have that as well in your background, but on the downside of that brain wiring and just the nature of what we do is solopreneurs. Thankfully, Claude, my chief of staff and executive assistant, is certainly becoming smarter and much more helpful. But let me stop there and just say, hey, if I showed up in your client queue, what might you do? Yeah. Yeah.

34:11 Thank you for all of that. So here's what we're going to do first is just inviting you to take a deep breath, Dave. So there's where you are today. So let's imagine for a moment. So I'm going to wave a magic wand here and I'm going to bring us three years from today. So it's 2029 and it's all worked out. And you feel like you've really made a difference in the way that you want to make a difference. And so 60 seconds, just start by saying, I am so happy and grateful now that and talk about it's all worked out. Don't worry about the how. We're just going to focus on the outcome. So 2029, Dave, tell me about your life. Well, I am so happy and grateful now that I have been able to successfully, as the sole provider, cover our monthly nut consistently, despite the ups and downs of the economy or clients that say, I love what we're doing together, but I just need to pause.

35:08 So we're going to cancel that. So instead of... Regardless of it's all worked out. You're covering your monthly expenses. What else is happening? All right. Very good. Thanks for cutting me off at negative self-talk. Yeah, that I, that I continue to be passionate and continue to learn and grow. I've become a master at executive and business coaching that I've had a, another ocean adventure, you know, in nature that, I've been able to spend time and be able to continue to do client work anywhere in the world. So be it on the water, on the ocean, or with our two grandchildren, Daisy and Calvin. Because what I do is family first.

35:57 I would give my own life for my family. So being able to support the family, but also to be able to enjoy the family and not have to be so caught up. Pause there. Period there. Yeah. Yep. So big breath, Sam. So three years from now, easily covering your monthly expenses. You're an expert in the coaching. You're doing that from anywhere in the world. You've had your ocean adventure with your grandkids and family first. And you feel really good about the impact that you're making. How does that feel? Well, it feels like I'm vibrating at a much better frequency than I was when I had the negative additions. So thank you for pausing me.

36:38 Tuning to this, what would this version of you say about the Monday morning overwhelm? How would he advise you? Well, fundamentally, take one of those things, family first or doing great work for clients and do something, one step there rather than ruminating and worrying and pondering. So here's the brilliance of this, right? The wisdom already exists within us. We just don't have access to it when we're in the frequency of overwhelm, we're in the frequency of, oh, the economy up and down and clients are rejecting and the to-do list is endless, right? Those are all facts, but they're not truth, right? The truth is that that wisdom exists within us. And so when we have that clearly defined vision, and there's a structure to that, you heard me interrupt you. Don't tell me about the economy. Don't tell me about that. Right. So that drops our vibration. It puts us back into conditions which triggers overwhelm. And so that's one of the things we do at Passion to Purpose is we're going to structure your vision in a very specific way. So it keeps you in a frequency and a vibration where we can access, I call it infinite intelligence, that wisdom within you.

37:55 to know what is my move. And so Dave, the move is to really define that vision and you're waking up Monday morning connected to that guy. And that guy knows the move, right? Yeah. Yeah. Trust that the highest priority or the best use of my attention and my time, it might be different day to day as emotions and energy are flowing differently throughout the day and the week. But what's that best use of attention and time to move it forward? And the guy in the vision knows that move. The guy in overwhelm doesn't know the move, right? The guy who's afraid to pay in the bills and the economy.

38:37 And what if this client cancels? When we're in that frequency, we only have access to those thoughts. And so that's the power of having that blueprint, having that vision is it gives us a place to put our attention, to put our energy, to put our thinking in. and helps to inform our decisions and our actions. Well, I feel lighter already and clearer, which I know is when my clients say that to me as their coach, uh, I've added value. So please know that just in those few minutes, uh, you clearly listen deeply and you're happy to challenge in the right ways to, you know, stop, stop the spiral. That's not supportive of, of moving forward.

39:19 So good on you. Um, In the remaining couple of minutes, is there one thing that you haven't been able to share that you would really feel on your heart or in your head that would be um prime not to share before you need to wing away. Well i want to circle back to how you opened this on on the definition of regenerate and we are creative beings we are meant to create we are also meant to grow and expand we And so life right now is seeking each and every one of us to be the next best version of ourselves. And most of us have been pushed that down because we think, oh, just be grateful for what I have. And this is just what life is. And so we dim that desire for more because we don't think we deserve it. We don't know how to get there. It feels overwhelming. And I just want to speak to, again, that word regenerate is you are meant to live a life you love.

40:21 We are meant to be growing. We are meant to be expanding. And so just really imploring people to listen to that and then get some support. Really tough to do that on our own and access that. And so if that's with Dave, if that's with myself, find a coach, find a mentor, find we value coaches with our kids' sports, right? You didn't learn sailing on your own, I'm sure. I'm from Canada, so I speak to the NHL, Connor McDavid's Edmonton Oiler. He didn't get to the NHL and fire his coaches. He got more coaches. And so just to set aside, I should have this all figured out. I should be able to do it on my own. Get support.

41:05 It's the shortcut. I love this, Stacey. You are speaking truth In my own experience, and it's a great reminder because sometimes coaches can't coach themselves. I have a coach, Chris Rue, out of England, and I suspect you have a coach. Absolutely. And I don't know if you can speak in the remaining one minute of as much as generative AI, LLMs, chatbots have become a little bit more capable. There's something that is never going to be replaced by human to human. Connection yeah yeah the way that i'm a big ai fan i think ai plays a role but i'm a bigger ii fan which is infinite intelligence so artificial intelligence to me is a tool to free up our time and energy so we can access our infinite intelligence which is unplugged from the computer And how do we access that?

42:05 You put yourself in rooms like Passion and Purpose Live, right? Where we really get quiet and move forward. So keep artificial intelligence in the seat it belongs. But at the end of the day, infinite intelligence is where it's at. Well, fantastic. So I know you need to bounce because you have another commitment. So please feel free to do that at any time. And I hope to have you back on the Regenerate show soon. at a future time because you clearly are a person of purpose and caring and talent and experience. So I wish you well on October 22nd through the 25th for your program.

42:48 Amazing. Thanks, Dave. And I'll just say that we do have a January date as well if October doesn't work. So I'll just put that out there. It's on the website. Thank you to you and to Rebel. It's been a pleasure. Thank you so much. So today's guest has been Stacey Berger. She's the founder of Ever Expanding Coaching, helping driven women and men, entrepreneurs break the overwork cycle and grow without giving up their health, their relationships, their freedom. So if you've received value today, please hit like, subscribe, maybe forward this to someone who needs it. And if we touched you in an important way, we really appreciate perhaps a review. So your support invites more purpose-driven leaders aboard this vessel, helping us create a healthier, more regenerative world faster. Next week, I'll be my own guest. We're going to kick off another three-part series, this time on becoming a regenerative business.

43:42 Part one will be about what is regeneration in the business context and how might we assess ourselves. I'm going to use myself as a guinea pig and have a mashup of of the clients that I have had the privilege of working with. So join us for episode 35 next Monday, 10 a.m. Pacific, 1 p.m. Eastern, 6 p.m. CET on k4hd. com. And then on your favorite podcast platforms a couple of days later. And as always, you can find us on theregeneratepodcast.com. Thank you for investing your valuable time on behalf of Rebel Medlar, our producer, and the entire Talk4Media team. Stay healthy, stay safe. We need you.

44:26 We're better together. Let's go regenerate. Thank you for listening to Regenerate with Captain Dave on K4HD Radio. We invite you to give yourself grace and embrace the messy middle. See you every Monday at 10 a.m. Pacific time. Until then, you got this.