May 18, 2026

Being (Living) Our Essence

Being (Living) Our Essence
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Season 1

What if the most powerful competitive advantage you have is the one you've been ignoring? In this episode of REGENERATE, Capt. Dave welcomes Pakistan-based leader, identity guide, and marketing coach, Naveed Shah, to explore the ancient wisdom encoded in Rumi's quotes — that your essence is your kingdom — and why the alignment between who you truly are and how you show up in the world isn't just a spiritual pursuit, but the critical success factor for sustainable leadership and lasting impact.

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This program is designed to provide general information with regards

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to the subject matters covered. This information is given with

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the understanding that neither the hosts, guests, sponsors, or station

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You should seek the services.

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Of competent professionals before applying or trying any suggested ideas. Behoy.

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Captain David Gallimore welcomes you aboard the Regenerate Show Live

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Monday's ten am Pacific on KFOHD Radio at KFOHD dot com.

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We dive into the real messy work of transforming our lives,

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leadership and organizations. Bring your hot mess and confusion, lead

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with clarity, courage, and coms. Together, let's strengthen our resilience,

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accelrating the health of ourselves, people, plant and profits. Now

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here's your host, Captain Dave, your personal regenerator.

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All aboard, OI and welcome. I am so delighted that

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you're here. During the show, I strive to create a

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safe space for my guests to share authentic and vulnerable

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true stories about the messy middle of their personal, professional,

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or organizational transformation. And these stories are so needed right now,

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aren't they? Given the challenges that we're having with global

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political and climate uncertainty and the disruptive nature of generative

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AI threatening to eat one or more of our lunches.

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We're navigating these daily. I want to point to hope. However,

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Regenerate This show is about how you can become somebody

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who brings more resilience, purpose, and authentic energy to the

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people that you love, to our community, to our planet,

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our only ship. So what is a definition of regeneration,

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you may ask, Well, my definition is still evolving as

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I learned and try out these regenitive principles. So regeneration

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draws from over three point eight billion years of Mother

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Earth evolving, and it's based on restoring the vitality across

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every living system that we touch ourselves, our families, our teams,

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our organizations, our communities, and ultimately our planet. And the

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idea is to move beyond just sustainability, which is to

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do no harm and to actually make things healthier. Think

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about a forest. If you've ever recently walked through a forest,

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It's chaotic, isn't it. It's just got all sorts of

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things that are dead or dying. On the ground, but

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that from there springs new life and of course the

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magic of photosynthesis, of bringing in CO two and releasing

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oxygen the lungs of our planet. And so we can

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think to the logic of life and align ourselves more

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with a fundamental question, what would nature do? So one

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of the things I come back to again and again

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on this show is to ask you to become a

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teacher if you're attracted to this idea of moving beyond

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just mirror sustainability and toward regeneration. So I am really excited.

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This is episode fifteen of the Regenerate Show and our

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theme today is being in parentheses, living our essence and

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I love that. So what if the most powerful competitive

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advantage you have is the only one that you've been ignoring,

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and that is this idea of identity and being. So

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in this episode, I'm welcoming my Pakistan based leader and

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coach and identity and marketing expert Navid Shah to explore

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ancient wisdom encoded in Rumi's insight that your essence is

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your kingdom. I love that, and why the alignment between

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who you truly are and how you show up in

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the world isn't just a spiritual pursuit, but the critical

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success factor for the sustainable and regeneritive leadership and lasting impact.

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So our promise to you, Navi denies to have some

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fun today, to leave you inspired and to leave you empowered.

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So Navid, just briefly introduction, is a strategic positioning and

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authority advisor and he's also the founder of Being Authentic.

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He's the creator of the Mirror framework for experts who

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struggle to translate their true wisdom in the market, and

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that has certainly been me. I'm looking forward to learning

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from Navid on this topic. He helps coaches and executives

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translate depth into market authority and he's done a lot

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of interesting things. We'll hear more when we ask him

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about his origin story. He has experienced loss and he's

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grown through that. And finally, he has a masters in

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International Relations from the University of the Punjab. So please

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give us a warm welcome to my guest, Navid sha.

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Thank you so much. David. I'm so grateful and honored

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to be here. Thank you so much for having me.

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I mis stay my friend. So our listeners always like

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to get to know somebody just a little bit deeper,

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and so My question to you is, what's that one

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thing that you absolutely love to be or do it

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just lights you up.

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It's being in nature and in quiet places. Just be

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with myself in silence. That's what, you know, lights me

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up when I am down and when I am overwhelmed

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or whatever you name it. So going back to my essence,

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my nature and just being as you mentioned, in the forest.

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So yeah, it's beautiful to be there. Is there nature

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not too far from where you live?

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No, it's it's only you know, ten to twenty minutes

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strive where I live, and that's why I live here.

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I was on a very long high ky yesterday. I

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spent the whole day out there. So it was a

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wonderful experience, you know, something that enlivens me whenever I

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am there, you know. So, yeah, it's.

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Stept secret, isn't it that if you're feeling really out

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of sorts, if your nervous system is spinning and things

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feel overwhelming, to stop the screens and put the smartphone

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down and go old school get into nature.

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Absolutely. I think that's been one of my you know,

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most transformative experience for the past few months, especially after

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December twent twenty five, and every time I go back

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to the you know, the old school, the old model,

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I think that's not old. It could be old in

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terms of just you know, people before us did it,

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but it is still the most relevant thing for any

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human being on this planet Earth come out of you know,

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all the struggles or you know, the downtime they're facing,

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or the overwhelming, you know, experiences they have. But we

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are taking it very light. We are taking it for granted,

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but it's it's transformative.

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Well said my friend, And I want to say from

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my heart to yours, I wish you and your countrymen

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and those in the greater Middle East region piece, especially

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Inner Piece, because if we had more Inner Piece, we

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might have more world peace. And I know it's a

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very uncertain time and you've been having to shift your

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location just for safety. So I've not had to ever

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experience that. I can only imagine what that must be

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like for you and your family. So I wish you

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and and that part of the world and the world

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in general to talk through our differences and to find

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Piece as soon as possible.

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You said it beautifully. I think we need more in

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our peace and whatever we do in the external world

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is actually the you know, the the reflection of our

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inner state in our being. So yeah, so if we

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are not connected internally with our essence, we definitely will

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be doing some messy things in the outer world because

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there's no compass, there's no you know, there's no rule

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book to which we we could be you know, accountable to.

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So it's really important to have that in an alignment

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and leading from the inner being your essence, and in

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your essence, every single human being on this planet Earth

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is a loving being, is a caring being, is a

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being that is you know, that is living to serve others.

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And I always mentioned this that if we bring this

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human being fact, human being factor to to to the

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top and leave behind all the titles or you know,

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the external you know, credentials or whatever we have, the achievements,

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and we just put the human being on the forefront,

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there will be no you know, mess because now we

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are not saying that I'm the boss and this is

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my pun but I will see I am a human

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being and the person who is, you know, cleaning my

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room or cleaning my office is the same human being

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and the feelings that I have, the same person has

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the same feeling because they are human beings as well,

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and I'm a human being, so that is what brings peace,

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not only in it but also in the external world.

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So it's really important that we stick to the you know,

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the unity of human being instead of titles or any

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external variations or credentials.

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So I would love to put this part of our

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discussion on pause just for a sec but let's come

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back to it, because I think it's such a rich

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treasure trove for us to really listen to each other

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and understand from your point of view. You know, you're

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probably a little younger than me, you have different perspective

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from age as well as geography right where, and cultural differences.

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I'm really looking forward to our discussion, but before we

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do that, our listeners love to also get to know

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a little bit about how did you become who you

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are so far? You mnd just take a couple of

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minutes and just giving us a brief origin story. Who

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is Navican? How did you become who you are so far?

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Yeah, thank you for asking this question. So I was

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born in Pakistan nineteen ninety seven and in the northern

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sides of the country, and from there we moved towards

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another province called Punjab, and I did my whole education

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over there and I lived there for twenty years. So

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I have been through different educational institution you know, the

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Islamic educational you know institutions and other educational you know institutions,

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and my education has been very diverse since the beginning.

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So I was studying science, I was studying humanities, arts,

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and you know, then I did my master's in theoretical

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science and international relations. But that was my educational journey

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and it has played its own role. But the most

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important role, you know, which I think made me who

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I am today, was my pursuit for freedom, my pursuit

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for you know, not being gaged in terms of thinking,

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in terms of questioning, in terms of growing, in terms

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of experimenting, and always seeking meaning in things that I

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do and not letting you know, the just the external

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factors or the environment shape my perception. That is limited

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in my essence as well as to my potential. So

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I started my first job when I was in my

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eighth standard and for six months I realized I was

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there and I realized this is not something that is

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you know, going to give me the fulfillment or the

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freedom or you know, even the financial freedom. At that time,

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it was more sort of a financial thing. So I thought,

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if I have enough money, I can be free and

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I can do anything I want. That was the perception

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at that time. So after six months of my time

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over there, I started to think about establishing something for

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my own self, and you know, started experimenting different businesses

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which were very small at that time, but for me

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they were very huge because I was doing them, you know,

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by taking some debt and support from people around me.

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And I'm grateful for them. So until COVID nineteen, I

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have been through different businesses. But one of the one

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of the key things that I remember throughout those years,

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I struggled a lot in seeking help. I thought I

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already know all the answers, or sort of, I thought

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if I reach out to somebody, they will think that

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I'm weak and I can't figure out things on my own.

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So I struggled a lot in reaching out to people

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and seeking help until COVID came, and in COVID I

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stopped everything. And COVID was the most I would say

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blessed year of my life in terms of everything, because

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it actually connected me back to my essence with who,

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with who I was. And when I used to ask

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this question, I literally, you know, felt frightened who I

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am beyond these you know titles or beyond these you

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know pursuits that I have been following for the past

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many years. And that question, you know, put me into

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more exploration. So I started reading a lot, listening to

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different people. I was not a social media guy, so

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thanks to that part of me, there was no distraction.

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So I only had my books, my diary, and me

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with my thoughts. And that experience actually led me back

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to who I was in my essence right. And during

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that time, I was reading a lot of, uh, you know,

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books on different subjects, and I came across this beautiful

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slogan and a coulde from roomy not a slogan, but

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a courte that was the wealth within you, your essence

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is your kingdom. And at that time it did not

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hit that deep, but it sort of made me pause,

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what exactly this means, this wealth and you know, essence

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and kingdom. And the more I sat with this quote,

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the deeper I went within me right, and the deeper

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I went, I found that I'm a very peaceful, very

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caring and you know, loving being and that part of

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my identity or my you know, true nature felt so

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real to me that I wanted to live my life

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after that, you know, I would say exploration according to

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that explored identity, true identity, which was there definitely and

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everyone has it, but it is you know, overwhelmed or

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you know, burdened under many layers of the content that

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we consume, or this society we have, or whatever we hear,

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we see or we you know read it shapes who

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we are. But in reality, we are not what we

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have what is shaping inside us. So it takes a break.

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I always say this that you in order to reconnect

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with who you are, you have to disconnect from everything

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so that you have that space where you can allow

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yourself to reconnect. Right, and if there's no connection, and

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I think that that is what happened in COVID. COVID

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the daily mind, I would say, where I was living

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the external validated version of myself and not the version

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that I was born with. Right, So that exploration brought

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a beautiful slogan into my life, and I started calling

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myself a healer without even knowing that who exactly a

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healer is and what a healer does, And my university

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fellows would ask me what this healer means, like how

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you came across this world or why do you write

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about it? Even till date on my WHATSAP number, there's

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no name, there's simply you know the healer. It's it's

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there till date. So and the slogan that I came

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across was to love respectance of humanity, something that was

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highly inspired by the life of Prophet Muhammad pspep on him.

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I read a lot on his life during COVID, and

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I found great resonance, and I found that being in

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the service of humanity is the most beautiful, you know,

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way to live your life in whatever way possible. You

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don't need to have a lot of, you know, financial

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resources to be in the service of humanity. You can

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just be there for someone who is struggling, which you

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call the messy middle, and just be with them. Don't

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try to fix them, as Simon Sinek says, just be

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with them in the mud, because sometimes people don't need fixing,

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they just need somebody to be with them. So that

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period of my life COVID was, you know, the beginning

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of the transformation. The first was the aid Stendard and

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the job, and the second one was you know, from

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it tended to the COVID. It was completely a financial pursuit.

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So I was only obsessed with making businesses or establishing

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businesses for me to make money, right. But after COVID

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things changed, so I did my masters, and after my Masters,

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I started my other venture, which was one of the

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biggest one, you know, so far since my extended and

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somehow I lost everything again. I was not there to

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seek anybody's health because I thought I know everything on

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my own. So after losing that business, it was sort

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of a complete breakdown for me because I was into

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huge steps from head to mouth and in order to

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pay back that debt, I had to do something. So

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in just one week or two weeks period of time,

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I decided that I should go beyond borders and you know,

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try my luck over there. If things are not working

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in Pakistan, let's see, let's see what I can do,

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you know, beyond it. So for the first time in life,

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I thought that I think I need to go to

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secure a job, right because businesses are not working for

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a very long period of time, and also my family

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was worried about this. My father even offered me a

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job in Pakistan, but I said, no, give me some

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more time and let me try another one and then

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if something does not work, then I will be back

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and we can you know, I can listen to you.

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So I went to Dubai and applied for multiple jobs,

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couldn't secure one. And at that time I was on

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LinkedIn and I was following somebody whom I thought, you know,

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who's writing I deeply admired at that time. So again

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when I see in my life, I think one of

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the best scenes I made were in you know, instant

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and you know, without planned, without you know, a lot

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of homework and efforts, and just made it out of

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the blue and they worked.

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an intuition that is telling you this is what you

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have to do at this time. So I reached out

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to that person and luckily I got response from him

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and in just two days we started working together. That

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was my first experience to work with a coach and

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David that was the transformation, the third transformation, the true transformation,

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I would say, the one that literally gives you, you know,

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the flight to the to the high highs and you know,

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to the skies. So I worked with that person for almost,

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you know, one year, and he told me something that

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if you go to a corporate sector, you won't survive

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there because you your personality is not a job personality.

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So you have to still figure it out, like what

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you can do with your current skills and you know,

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start earning money. And I think that was the time,

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you know, no, it was before that when I had

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a conversation with you, and I was sort of offering

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virtual assistant services to people, right, so I said, okay,

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let's let's you know, do this and you know, offer

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these services to people and see what emerges. When I

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started as a virtual assistant, I was so lucky and

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fortunate to work with some incredible coaches and leaders from

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different parts of the world. And one of them who

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had who played a huge role in my transformation, especially

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on the business side, he told me that you can

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do much more than you know, the virtual assistant stuff.

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do and he would simply say that you can do

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the same thing that we do as coaches because I

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see you have that same potential. So that is how

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I got into you know, the coaching space along with

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those people. But when I was working with them, I

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found there's a big problem these kinds of people like

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especialty coaches and leaders and executives who have a real wisdom,

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but when it comes to telling that wisdom or translating

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that wisdom and communicating that wisdom to the market and

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speaking to the right audience in the right way, they

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struggle a lot because.

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They're already here at this level and their audience is

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at this level and there's a huge gap, right So

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to fill this gap, you have to come to this

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point and then take your audience to this level so

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that you know, and it's very hard for them to

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come here.

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It takes a lot of time, a lot of you know,

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a lot of unlearning. I would say, it does not

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mean that you lower your standards or you leave your

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wisdom behind. It's just finding that easier communication way to

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communicate the depth of your work so that your audience

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can understand. And that bridge is you know, failed, and

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once the bridge is failed, then you can, you know,

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in a way short period of time, you can take

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those people to the higher level where you are.

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So I'm just gonna pause you just for a sec,

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for just a short commercial break, and so excited to

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hear more about how you close that gap.

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Thank you.

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your host, Captain Dave, your personal Regenerator.

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Well, welcome back if you're just now joining. I've been

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speaking with Navid Shah, a location free, strategic positioning and

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authority advisor and founder of Being Authentic. He's also the

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creator of the Mirror Network for Leader of Clarity, and

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he helps coaches and executives translate their wisdom, their depth

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into authority authentically into the market. And we've been talking

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about the theme being and in parentheses, living our essence.

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So Nevid, you were talking about you saw this need

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in the market where coaches and executives and people that

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have acquired a lot of wisdom over the years and

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we're really under getting return on investment of that wisdom quotient.

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I can follow that, and especially if they're trying to

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attract your clients or maybe influence a movement that is

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important to them, and you identify this gap where sometimes

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they need to dial back their wisdom a little bit

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so that they can meet their ideal client profile. Have

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I heard that correctly? You want to correct anything about

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that and then talk a little bit about about how

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you help close that gap.

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Yeah, I think. Yeah. So the professionals or coaches or leaders,

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people who have real depth and wisdom when it comes

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to marketing themselves or when it comes to communicating the

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depth of their work to the right audience. This struggle,

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and the struggle isn't about you know, the struggle isn't

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about that there's something wrong with them. It's simply one thing,

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and that is they're leading from hurt, right, They're hurt

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and when someone is leading from hurt, they always say

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that I don't want to be I don't want to

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sound sales y, I don't want to sound pushy. I

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don't want to follow any gimmick or trick or template.

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I want to be myself and still, you know, keep

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my ball growing, my business, revenue growing and creating an impact.

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That's the struggle they have, and the reason they struggle

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to communicate the depth of their work isn't about, you know,

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there's something wrong with their work. It's about because they

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have been told in order to win in the market

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or to have clients, they have to play by the

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rules set by the external word or the you know,

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the market. And when you follow those rules, and especially

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if you are a hurt centered leader, someone who is

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way deep into the service of the human beings, it

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gives you a soul crushing experience because you have to

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you have to create and sort of follow those tactical,

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urgency based and fomo based principles, many relative ones, because

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you have been told that you cannot win without them,

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but in reality you can win. So when I started

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as a virtual assistant, I took almost every course out

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there on branding, on marketing and joined some of the

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top you gurus and creators. But when I took their

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courses and started implementing their tactics and frameworks, I lost

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myself who I was. The person that I found in

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COVID was again losing just to survive in the market.

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So I had to, you know, pause at that time,

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and I took a very long break, almost of a quarter,

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and I said, Okay, let me find another way, and

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how I'm going to find I'm going to try and

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few things that are aligned with who I am and

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will implement it for myself and then I can offer

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the same thing to my clients. And luckily they didn't work.

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By the way, just to quickly add an exclamation point

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to your self awareness, what a gift you gave yourself

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that three months ish you step back when you realize

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that the inner Navid and the outer presenting yourself into

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the market Navid, those two circles were starting to diverge.

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Is that fair absolutely didn't feel authentic.

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Absolutely, and especially with the advancement of AI, I started

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seeing everything sounds same in the market, Every person sounds same,

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and you cannot differentiate who you are. And to be

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very honest, David, that was a soul crushing experience. And

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I call it a soul crushing because you are literally

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cutting your soul day by day by going through.

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That slices, slices of your scenes, your being.

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Yeah. So when I took that break and started working

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on few frameworks and then implementing them for myself and

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then for a few of my clients, and I'm grateful

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for them because they, you know, trusted me with something

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that I came across, you know, really you know, just new,

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and allowed me to implement those things from their you know,

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profiles and with their work. And that brought a lot

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of results, not only for myself but also for them.

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And that is when I Before that, I was just

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doing the freelance work. But when I did that exercise,

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I started my agency and named it being Authentic because

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I did not want to build something that is not

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aligned with who I am, and neither I would work

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with anybody who is asking me to do a work

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that is not aligned with him or her because when

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you speak to somebody, you can truly know that either

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the person is living his or her true essence or not,

470
00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:17.839
because it's very visible, especially for a person who has

471
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:20.599
done the inner work or who has some you know,

472
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:24.960
great mentors like yourself and other great mentors who have

473
00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:27.200
been walking with me on this path.

474
00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:31.599
So that was you know, you have a spidey sense

475
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:35.319
of if somebody is out of integrity having done the

476
00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:38.759
work yourself. I think that is such a true statement.

477
00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:42.160
And one of the things that I've learned from Daniel

478
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:46.680
pink Writer is one of the core human skills that

479
00:31:46.839 --> 00:31:51.720
we can't forget in this generative AI world that is

480
00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:58.480
being thrust upon us is discernment. And discernment is really understanding. Okay,

481
00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:01.960
is this the truth? And how does this resonate with me?

482
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:04.400
And if you don't know your own truth, how can

483
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:11.359
you possibly discern aislop and manipulation and fake news and

484
00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:14.759
all the things that seem to be bombarding people and

485
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:16.440
causing them distress.

486
00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:21.480
Yeah. Yeah, if you ask anything all these models, they

487
00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:24.200
will give you the answers that will make you happy.

488
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:27.640
They're not the answers that are challenging you. So I

489
00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:30.880
literally this is something that I did recently, very recently,

490
00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:36.960
just a month ago, I completely disconnected from all the

491
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:39.599
models that I was using for the past three years

492
00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:44.799
and completely deleted them. It's not about me being against

493
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:49.920
you know, AI or technology. I'm still using some of them,

494
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:55.240
very few, I think only two, but very you know, intentionally.

495
00:32:55.880 --> 00:33:00.599
And I do all my writing on papers. I call

496
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:04.799
MPP mind pen and paper again, going back to the

497
00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:07.880
old school, beginning with the thinking in the mind and

498
00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:12.079
then putting it you know, through pen on paper. It

499
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:13.880
takes a lot of time. It takes a lot of

500
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:17.319
time because I struggled a lot with the blank page thing.

501
00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:20.960
But I'm putting myself into this exercise because I'm truly

502
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:26.160
betting on humanity. I still believe that humanity is human

503
00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:30.079
experience and the human creativity is still the most you know,

504
00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:36.720
unique thing that we have in this world. So when

505
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:40.039
these people, like like the experts, who struggle to communicate

506
00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:43.440
themselves in the market, the bigger problem that comes to

507
00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:50.359
which I found, was misalignment between who they are and

508
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:56.519
what their perception is in the market. So it's their

509
00:33:56.799 --> 00:34:03.000
inner perception about themselves is correct, but their market perception

510
00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:07.279
about themselves is not aligned with who they are internally.

511
00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:10.360
So I created this framework that I call it's very

512
00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:13.920
simple framework, three steps formula, which is the mirror framework.

513
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:17.599
It begins with the inner world, the inner mirror. Then

514
00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:20.480
it goes to the outer mirror. The inner mirror is

515
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:23.280
about who you are. What is your story and why

516
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:25.760
you do what you do and why exactly you want

517
00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:26.079
to do it?

518
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:26.840
Right?

519
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:30.800
What makes you special about you know, what you're doing

520
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:33.559
for people? And what is your whyo? Like, what is

521
00:34:33.639 --> 00:34:37.119
your driving force behind it? Is it transaction or is

522
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:40.440
it transformation? So if it is transaction, I'm still not

523
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:43.880
against it. Right, that could be your driving force, but

524
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:46.199
it should be aligned with who you are. It shouldn't

525
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:50.239
be manipulative, it shouldn't be tactical and you know, based

526
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:54.119
on manipulating people. And then there comes the outer mirror.

527
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:58.719
The outer mirror is how you are being perceived currently

528
00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:02.159
in the market. Right, So once we go to the

529
00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:06.039
outer mirror and the inner mirror is already done, we

530
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:09.599
create that alignment between the inner mirror and the outer mirror,

531
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:14.119
and the outer mirror is completely aligned and it is

532
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:17.480
based on the inter mirror because your inter mirror is

533
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:20.559
your foundation. And once we have that alignment from the

534
00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:25.280
inter mirror and the outer mirror, then we establish the

535
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:30.440
positioning and the you know, perception of the person through

536
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:33.920
the market mirror. In the market, right, which I call

537
00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:36.360
the third step, which is the market mirror. So that's

538
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:40.400
the framework, and it's it is not a rocket rocket science.

539
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:44.760
Any anybody can do it if if they have the

540
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:49.119
ability to sit with themselves for a few you know,

541
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:53.639
minutes or even an hour without any distraction, and let

542
00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:57.960
that inner voice you know, come out of them with honesty,

543
00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:01.079
without any you know, distraction, with out any you know,

544
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:08.000
with undivided attention. And once that emerges and anything you

545
00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:11.760
build on that foundation, on the inner mirror work. It

546
00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:16.920
is not only you know, it is not only something

547
00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:20.960
that will succeed on the business side, but also that

548
00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:23.960
will fix three different problems which you know don on

549
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:30.000
mirror calls. Then the external problem, the internal problem, and

550
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:33.719
the philosophical problem. So and these are the three problems

551
00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:37.360
that some of most of us face, right. The external

552
00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:42.119
problem causes the internal problem. And even if the external

553
00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:45.840
and internal are sorted out, there will still be a

554
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:49.559
philosophical problem, the meaning problem. So if you go through

555
00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:52.239
these three steps, the inner mirror, the outer mirror, the

556
00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:56.519
market mirror, all these three problems are sorted out, and

557
00:36:56.719 --> 00:37:00.800
you don't have just an authentic position in the market.

558
00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:05.800
Authentic perception in the market, but also a strong, sustainable,

559
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:10.159
thriving business in the market as well, and you are

560
00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:13.880
in that space for a very long period of time.

561
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:17.679
You're not just you know, doing business, but you're actually

562
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:23.239
creating transformational experiences for your clients and you're actually contributing

563
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:26.079
to the betterment of this world. And that is what matters.

564
00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:31.119
And that's why I love to work with people who

565
00:37:31.159 --> 00:37:34.800
are purpose driven, who wants to do meaningful work, who

566
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:37.440
are not in the coaching or you know, whatever space

567
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:40.800
they are in just for the sake of transaction. I'm

568
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:44.320
still saying I'm not against transactions, but for me, transformation

569
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:48.360
comes first. And in transformation, there's a transaction as well,

570
00:37:48.519 --> 00:37:51.320
but that is a byproduct of it, right, But if

571
00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:56.559
you're leading from the transaction, it's very surface level of things.

572
00:37:57.559 --> 00:38:00.840
It puts you into the external numbers and the terminal validation.

573
00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:04.440
But when you are in the business of transformation, you're

574
00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:07.079
leading from your hurt, You're leading from the inner being.

575
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:11.400
And sometimes even if you have some tough times, and

576
00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:14.679
even if you face some setbacks, you will still be grateful,

577
00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:17.039
you will still be happy and in peace, and that's

578
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:19.559
the ultimate goal of life. For most of the people.

579
00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:24.039
So that's the whole framework, and that's the whole you know,

580
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:27.039
work that I do with people like yourself and you know,

581
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:29.480
other incredible leaders from across the world.

582
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:35.280
Or someone in their late twenties. You are a wise soul,

583
00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:40.280
my friend. I just I could listen to you for hours.

584
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:45.920
You clearly get it and understand ancient wisdom and how

585
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:51.199
it can be applied authentically. Do not only help strengthen

586
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:54.840
the integrity of the individual the inner mirror, but then

587
00:38:55.000 --> 00:39:00.360
to have that mirror reflected with brilliance and clarity, not

588
00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:07.119
fuzzy and dull, but you know, sparkling because it's now

589
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:11.199
being translated to the outer mirror. And I love the

590
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:14.920
philosophical you mentioned. I have not heard that before. Doctor

591
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:18.119
Arthur Brooks, the Harvard Happiness Professor, talks a lot about

592
00:39:18.280 --> 00:39:23.119
meaning and how we're struggling and many young people especially

593
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:27.039
or struggling with lack of meaning and what you're really

594
00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:31.800
if I may call it a formula, your framework, it's

595
00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:35.280
it's really well thought through and I think it is

596
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:39.760
going to help a lot of people. Can you speak

597
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:45.000
to maybe a win that you've had recently with taking

598
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:48.880
a client who is wise that they were there was

599
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:54.280
a mismatch of these mirrors and what the outcome has

600
00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:57.280
been for that that client. You don't have to name

601
00:39:57.320 --> 00:39:59.639
their name, but you know, just maybe tell us a

602
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:01.519
little bit about an example.

603
00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:06.119
Yeah, So recently, very recently, I got an opportunity to

604
00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:11.079
work within with an incredible leader from Dallas. She is

605
00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:15.199
highly accomplished on every aspect of her life, and she's

606
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:19.159
very into the conscious capitalism space and you know, meaning

607
00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:26.519
and purpose driven approach, integrating purpose into organizations and helping

608
00:40:26.679 --> 00:40:31.360
leaders find bridge that gap that has been created, you know,

609
00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:37.320
over the the for many decades since the Industrial revolution,

610
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:42.480
especially because because that Industrial revolution puts have put us

611
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:46.480
into into that grind experience, so you you the high

612
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:51.320
achieving thing and there's you know, no other factor to consider,

613
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:55.199
but all need numbers. So I got the opportunity to

614
00:40:55.480 --> 00:40:58.960
work with her. And when I started working with her,

615
00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:03.039
she she has written almost eight books and she is

616
00:41:03.679 --> 00:41:07.159
you know, having a great podcast as well at this time,

617
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:11.280
and she has spoken to some incredible leaders from across

618
00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:13.519
the world. And when I started working with her, I

619
00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:18.079
found her profile to be very generic and overloaded with

620
00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:22.840
a lot of external crudentials and validations, which is good.

621
00:41:23.079 --> 00:41:26.360
I'm not against them, but still I'm saying, don't let

622
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:31.280
those external factors drive you, because when they're driving you,

623
00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:35.920
you're losing yourself. You're not connected. And when we started

624
00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:41.639
working together, incredible thing you know emerged the work that

625
00:41:41.719 --> 00:41:45.159
we did for the past two months. She has now

626
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:49.320
today today, before this call, I was having an email

627
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:53.199
exchange with her and she announced her movement and that

628
00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:57.079
moment is going to become a change maker in this

629
00:41:57.199 --> 00:42:01.960
space she is working in, and that is what happens.

630
00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:07.760
So you might have been a movement builder between, but

631
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:12.559
you are just limiting yourself because some of the people

632
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:16.480
out there has told you in order to win, you

633
00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:19.639
have to lose yourself and adopt to, you know, some

634
00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:24.280
external tactics or frameworks or whatever you call it. There

635
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:27.960
are few things that you follow when it comes to

636
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:33.960
business or strategy or whatever, but their secondary. Your essence

637
00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:37.440
is the first thing. Your essence should be the driving force.

638
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:43.039
And when you are driving from your essence, sometimes rules

639
00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:46.360
will come in your way or strategies that might work

640
00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:50.039
for people that might bring some revenue, but that is

641
00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:54.719
where your actual test is. Either you let your integrity

642
00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:57.719
drive you or you compromise it because you want to

643
00:42:57.800 --> 00:43:02.800
make some transaction. So it it's very important to know

644
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:07.280
what is driving you, and then upon that, it is

645
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:13.280
very important for anyone to let their inner essence and

646
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:18.079
inner you know being should be the driver, not the

647
00:43:18.199 --> 00:43:20.800
other way around. Not anything exterert.

648
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:24.639
Yeah, I'm thinking, and we're going to need to wind

649
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:27.960
down sadly. I hope that I can invite you back.

650
00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:31.719
There's so much more depth to you that I know,

651
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:36.440
we're just kind of scratching the surface. How can people

652
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:38.280
find out about you?

653
00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:42.760
Yeah, so I'm not you know, on many social media

654
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:46.119
platforms still there. I'm still only on LinkedIn, So that's

655
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:49.679
you know, the best way for anyone to reach out

656
00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:51.800
to me. And if they want to reach out to

657
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:56.559
me more personally, they can simply reach out to me

658
00:43:56.760 --> 00:43:59.119
through my email that I can definitely share with you.

659
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:05.119
It's it's healer at Navidha dot me. So healer at

660
00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:08.679
Navidha dot me. That's something you can put in description

661
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:12.719
and they can find me on LinkedIn and they can

662
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:15.920
reach out to me over the email as well, and

663
00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:19.559
I'll be on it to you know, to to support

664
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:24.599
or to be in their transformative experience. Or transformational journey

665
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:26.039
as well outstanding.

666
00:44:26.679 --> 00:44:30.960
So I'm just so grateful that you've taken time. I

667
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:35.320
know it's late there, thank you. Yes, a long day

668
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:39.199
and hopefully you've had fun sharing your wisdom. I know

669
00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:42.760
I've learned a couple of things that you know, that

670
00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:49.760
whole purpose dimension and the meaning dimension with these two mirrors,

671
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:52.800
the inner and the outer mirror, I think that's a

672
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:57.320
really important gap that that with your help in June,

673
00:44:58.119 --> 00:44:59.519
looking forward to collaborating with you.

674
00:44:59.599 --> 00:44:59.800
On that.

675
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:07.840
So on behalf of Navid, I ask that consider one

676
00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:13.480
thing that you leaned from our conversation and hast drive

677
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:16.400
it in the wild and see if it might make

678
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:20.639
a difference in your own personal integrity. Because when we're

679
00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:26.079
in integrity, our inner and outer mirrors are aligned. As

680
00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:33.039
you said before, Navid, there's just nothing more sincere, authentic,

681
00:45:33.639 --> 00:45:38.280
honest than that. And people can can experience the difference,

682
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691
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693
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694
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695
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696
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