Most of us cope with our biggest challenges — the health of our planet, biodiversity loss, the stresses and strains on our health, and the disparities and injustices in our communities — by simply not thinking about them.

We’re wired to look away from what frightens us, and these problems have become remarkably easy to avoid.

Thor Olson does the opposite.

Trained as geologist, he stares straight at the satellite data — the retreating ice, the rising temperatures, the dew point shifting at both poles — and refuses to flinch.

But seeing clearly is only step one.

In this REGENERATE episode, Thor shares his repeatable, five-step process to move from overwhelm to action: identify the problem, dig for the truth through facts and primary sources, reflect and meditate, validate your thinking with others, and finally evangelize what you’ve learned through authentic stories.

It’s a navigator’s method for facing reality without drowning in despair.

Our conversation is about finding the nerve to look our hardest problems dead in the eye — and the discipline to keep moving forward with purpose.

Because you can’t chart a course through waters (and any obstacles beneath the water...iceberg anyone?!) you refuse to see.

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