June 1, 2026

Pivots of The Pipeman (TM)

Pivots of The Pipeman (TM)

What if everything you've ever been is exactly who you were meant to become? Society tells you to pick a lane and work the 45-year plan. The Pipeman says mess up the plan and pivot towards how you were meant to live! Dean K. Piper, CST aka “The...

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Season 1

What if everything you've ever been is exactly who you were meant to become?

Society tells you to pick a lane and work the 45-year plan.

The Pipeman says mess up the plan and pivot towards how you were meant to live!

Dean K. Piper, CST aka “The Pipeman” — metalhead, punk, hippy, professional businessman - has lived multiple lifetimes in one. He’s lived multiple identities. He's evolved into his complete and true identity. He's building a media empire that reaches millions across the world.

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Monday's ten am Pacific on KFOHD Radio at KFOHD dot com.

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We dive into the real messy work of transforming our lives,

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leadership and organizations. Bring your hot mess and confusion. Lead

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with clarity, courage and confidence. Together, let's strengthen our resilience,

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accelerating the health of ourselves, people, plan and profits. Now

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here's your host, Captain Dave. You're Personal Regenerator.

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All aboard, boy, Welcome friends Generate. I'm Captain Dave. You're

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a personal Regenerator, and during this show, I strive to

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create a safe space for guests and yourself to share

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authentic and vulnerable true stories about the messy middle of personal, professional,

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and organizational transformation. You know, I think these stories are

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so needed right now. We've got more than enough fake news,

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We've got enough performative acting, especially on podcasts where people say, hey,

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just follow my formula and you've got it all figured out,

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and you too could be happier, healthier, wealthier, even a billionaire.

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But the point about regeneration is to bring resilience during

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these challenging times, a lot of change, a lot of uncertainty.

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This is an upper tunity for us to learn to adapt.

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So the secret to regeneration, I believe, is learning from

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people who are living it in the mud, fingernails, getting dirty,

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in the messy middle. So the reason why I created

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Regenerate is because I'm dedicated to lifting purpose driven leaders

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up and especially next generation leaders such as yourselves, and

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I act as a transformational guide outside of this Regenerate

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show and just love serving people. I invite you to

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share the show if anything resonates with you, invite you

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to be a teacher, because when you teach something, you

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definitely have to learn it a little bit better. I

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have always enjoyed learning and then teaching others, so it

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really sinks in and I'm very open to your suggestions

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to improve the show. This is show number seventeen ya,

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and I'm super excited to be welcoming a dear, dear

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colleague who helped me overcome a lot of inertia and

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challenge my own pivot. Dean K. Piper cst aka The

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Pipe Man, and our theme this week is pivots of

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the Pipe main So what if everything you've ever been

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is exactly who you were meant to become? Society I

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know this was true for me, said, Hey, work hard,

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get good grades, get into a good college, get a

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good job, pick a lane, work for forty five years,

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get the gold plotch But the Pipe Man says, mess

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up the plan, pivot towards how you were meant to live.

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I'm telling you, at sixty four, that is absolutely my

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experience for a healthier, wealthier and happier life. So who

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is Deed. He's a metal head, he's a punk rocker,

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a hippie, and a global professional businessman. He's lived multiple

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lifetimes in one, He's lived multiple identities. Hopefully he will

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bring just one or two of those identities. Otherwise it's

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going to be a challenge for Dave to keep up.

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He's now a media visionary, and he's built a global

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empire that reaches millions across the world through the top

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four media brand. So in this episode of Regenerate, Dean

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and I are going to be exploring the messy, courageous,

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and ultimately liberating journey of radical reinvention, where the multiple

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facets of your personality are your greatest gift to the world. So,

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without further ado, I'd like to welcome Dean a Piper

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the pipe Man.

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Hello, Hello, Hawaii, Captain Dave. How are you.

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I'm doing awesome in yourself.

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Oh I'm right near to water, so I might be

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doing better than you right now.

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Well, I'm going to be. I'm in a hotel. We

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just sold our home, and so I'm a nomad. By

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the way, future is so bright. Got to wear shades.

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I love the blue sunglasses. You're kind of channeling a

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little John Lennon.

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I think, well, actually, okay, it has become my trademark.

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I don't know if you saw, but my hair used

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to be blue. It's blue and my logo and so

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the I always would match my clothes and my sunglasses

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to my hair and arago are these sunglasses which I

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used to call my John Lennon glasses, but they're now

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in honor of the prints of Darkness. They are my

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Assie glasses because they do look much more like Ossie glasses,

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especially the color. So here they are. And I have

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to say too that I have a question for you first,

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before you interview me, I have a question for you.

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Go ahead.

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So when most people that are oreo fanatics eat oreos,

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where do they start?

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You pull apart and you eat the middle because life

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is short.

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So what you're saying, So what you're saying is they

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start on a cookie with the messy middle, So why

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not start with themselves in the messy middle?

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Dude, profound right there, We can stop now our work

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is done.

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I've thought about that during the or what else. Let's

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stay to the intro of going August start off and saying, hey,

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I recognize that dude talking before the show. But then

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it just came to me. And that's see, that's the

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best advice I could give anybody for being a guest

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on a show a host on a show, is that

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just let it take a life of its own and

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have conversations and whatever comes into your head. You know,

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you talked about all the different. Uh, I'll call them personalities, okay,

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And the chances are they might all come and visit

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on the show, you never know. But the thing is

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they're all us, you know, Like, why do we like to,

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you know, put ourselves in a box or let society

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put us in a box? Or why do we like

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to section off our lives? And speaking of messy middles,

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that comes to my philosophy on midlife crisis because it's

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just like what I'm talking about, and you know, why

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is everything a crisis? That's the first problem. Not everything's

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a crisis, and what is disguised as a crisis could

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be a blessing indeed, And I think we have to

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focus on that. But now I'll let you take control

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back of the show. But if you want to know

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about my philosophy on midlife crisis, that'll be up to you.

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There you go. I think we're going to get into that.

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But I wanted to give our listeners just a little

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bit of an opportunity to go a bit deeper with you.

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And so my first question is what do you absolutely

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love to do for fun? What just lights you up living?

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It's the simplest answer people should give, living, living life,

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to the fullest. Now, I could also give you my

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laundry list, which I will. But here's a funny story

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that you brought that question up of all questions, because yes,

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the pipe main is on dating sites, and yes that

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is a mess in and of itself. But I had

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somebody that matched with me on dating site this morning,

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and so I asked a question, and I ask a

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lot of people similar to yours. What are you what?

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What are your hobbies, what are your passions? What music

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do you love the most? And what music do you

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not like? And there's a reason the last one, because

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there's gotta be I think there's gotta be compatability when

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it comes to music, because you know, different genres may

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not match in a made in heaven, especially when you're

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the pipemin and you go on tour like I'm going

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back out. I you know, I came home from tour

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to do this interview and then I'm going back out

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in a couple of days to do media coverage at

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music festivals. So, of course, to big passion of mine.

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To answer your question, Music's one of my biggest passions

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life and live music is a big passion of mine.

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Festivals theme parks events things like that, going out there

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in the wild gain off these devices, going out there

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in the wild and experiencing life and meeting new people

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and experiencing new things. That's a big passion mine. But

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I asked this woman these questions, and her response to

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me really kind of annoyed me in a way, I'll

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even say, because A it was such a generic response. B.

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You know a lot of men say things and say

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things about women and women say things about men. Yeah,

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I think both parties do the things they are talking

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about the other person. This proves it because I've seen

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a lot of women talk about, especially on TikTok and stuff.

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Men nowadays you need to make some effort, you know,

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step up to the play, make an effort. Blah blah blah.

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So this woman answers me with I love a lot

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of things. And what was the other part of the

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answer with so generic it was, I love a lot

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of things, and I I love a lot of music.

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That was not the answer to the question. That was

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not the answer to the question. And even I went further,

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I'm like, well, great, said, does everybody else in the world.

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Can you give me some ideas of some specific so

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we can see if we're compatible. Still refuse to answer

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because and to me, that's like a no effort b

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being lazy, see a lack of communication skills. I'm big

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on communication skills because listen, you want to get to

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know somebody. And I did say this back, if you

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want to get to know somebody, these are things you

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want to know, not some generic Oh that's what she

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said that she said too, She said something like it

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was a big long list that it basically alluded to.

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She wasn't going to make the effort to type that, okay,

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and so I'm not going to make the effort to

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communicate with you. Bye. That's my viewpoint. Okay. So the

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thing is is that you know, to answer your question,

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living life to the fullest is the best answer anybody

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could give. Because we only have one life. We don't

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know how much time we have. We could be gone

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after this show, for God's sakes. So I am a

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serious do everything anything. I will try anything. If I

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like it, I'll do it more. Now, the simple answer

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to your question the laundry list is there's a slew

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of things including this. Being on the radio, being on

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a podcast is a big passion of mine being a speaker,

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helping people, you know, inspiring people, you know, helping people

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to live life to their fullest. Those are huge passions

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of mine. Then there's of course music, as we mentioned,

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there's I mentioned, you know, theme parks events, also skateboarding,

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paddle boarding, surfing, virtually any water sport except for scuba

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and snorkeling. Scuba because I can't because I had a

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lung collapse at seventeen and so again pivoting. I could

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sit there and go, oh, what's me. Now I can't

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skydive and I can't scuba dive, or I can say

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what W. Mitchell said. Now there's a thousand things I

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still can do. If anybody knows who W. Mitchell is,

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he is one of the greatest motivational speakers that Tony

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Robbins speaks about a lot who had not one, but

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two accidents in his life that he should have died

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and did not, but he did end up his body

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ninety percent burned and a quadriplegic. And his his mantras,

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it's not what happens to me, it's what you do

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with it.

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Yeah, such true statements there. So my second question, and

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I was going to read a number of things that

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I had learned about you, but I thought it would

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be best from your lips. And the question is if

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before you became a global media post, an event post

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and musician and bother.

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Not a musician, I'm just a radio person. I just

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go go to I suck at them. I've played drums,

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I've played guitar, I've sang fresh. I suck at them all.

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So I do this.

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Okay, thanks for clarifying that. But before all of those adventures,

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the financial planner, the theater stuff that you did, tell

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us a little bit about how you became who you are.

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What is your origin story?

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Well, my parents met at a restaurant. That's the origin story,

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I guess now all kidding the side though, seriously, that

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is your origin story. And you have a blank slate,

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but then you have playing blank slates in your life

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on month of the Opinion. Okay, so, like I, you.

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Were a kid. Story to interrupt, but when you were

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a kid, was there something that happened to you that

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defined some of that personality that you are?

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That all of it, all of it, all of it,

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And I think that's true of anybody, and that could

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come out different ways. Okay. When I say all of

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it means it could be good, it could be bad.

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It could be perceived as good or bad. There's things

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in my life that others would perceive as bad, and

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they were bad, but I perceived them as good because

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it's what you get out of it. It's not what happens,

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it's what you get out of it, you know. So

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as a kid, you know, one of the things that

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I didn't like about my mother most of all is

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I was like I had no child life as a

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young kid. It was, you know, basically like in the

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cub Scouts, I was the highest decorated cub Scouts in

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history two years in a row. Why because that cub

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Scout handbook was meant and was treated as homework, not

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as a fun thing. So it was like my mother

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made me do every single thing in that book. Now

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could that be perceived as bad? It could be. And

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there are a lot of things that my mother did

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that I do perceive as bad, but that one I

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perceive now as well. That made me and some could

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consider bad, but you know, that made me the knowledge

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junkie that I am. It made me the the super

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researcher that I am. It makes me the workaholic that

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I am. It makes me the overachiever that I am.

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It makes me as ambitious as I am, as persistent

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as I am, and as persevering as I am. So

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take it for what you will. Some can listen my kids, well,

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not all of them. The youngest one, she's all into

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the hut. You know, she's a gen Z or so

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she's into all the you know, uh, stuff that's popular

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nowadays that maybe wasn't popular for gen X kids like us.

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And she made a statement one time. I was talking

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about something and she's like, yeah, Dad, you have to

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work on that trauma. I'm like, did you not hear

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how I was saying. What I was saying. It's not

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everything's trauma. It wasn't trauma. It was I wear it

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as a badge of honor, you know. And that is

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a choice, which brings me to what I was going

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to say before about at different times and different pivot points,

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when I turned eighteen, as a person that had a

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very tumultuous childhood as most people do, as a child

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of two high function, high class addicts, As somebody that

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raised myself since eleven, as somebody that lived on the street,

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sleeping up park benches at fifteen. I said something to

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myself at eighteen that nobody had to tell me to say,

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and most people don't say. And that's especially to people

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that love to live in trauma. Now that I'm eighteen,

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I'm in control my life, and anything I do after

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this point that screws up my life is on me,

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not on my childhood, not on any trauma or anything.

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It's on me because I can tell the difference between

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good and bad, right and wrong without having a perfect childhood.

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And you know, like I see a big peeve of mize.

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I see these serial killers that listen nice. If I

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could think like them, it'd be a lot easier. But

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the serial killers that get interviewed and they're like, yeah,

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the reason they did all those heinous things is their childhood. Blame, blame, blame, victim, victim, victim, victim,

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No wrong, Okay, I one million percent disagree with that.

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Because you can get your role models from anywhere, You

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can get your influences from anywhere, you can get your

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inspirations from anywhere. And I chose not to use the

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negativity of childhood. I used the l I chose to

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use things like positive, moovational stuff, self help stuff, coping skills.

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What a concept coping skills? Like people embrace certain things

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nowadays they don't need to embrace because if they had

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coping skills, they wouldn't have those things going on. Just

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my opinion and my experience as well. So the bond

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line is I was somebody and listen thing one. That's

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why I referred to on the radio as my first wife.

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She used to make fun of me because I used

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role models. They don't have to be real life people either,

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by way. I use Leave It to Beaver and Brady

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Bunch as my role models of what family should be like. Okay,

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that's number one. Number two, I used people like Tony

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Robinson zig Ziggler as examples, especially Toy because he was

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somebody like me that did was down and out and

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crawl out from the depths of hell to become super successful.

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And I say to those people out there, you know,

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and then I'll have to cut myself off or else

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I'll hijack the whole show. But I say to those

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people out there that are you know, struggling or going

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through a lot right now, because the world is a

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screwed up place right now. People are screwed up right now,

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the energy is screwed up right now. But you have

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the choice. You have the choice to make the difference

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in what I considered right now is the messy middle

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of our existence, because everything's a roller coaster in life,

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and when there's if you think about last century, we

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had a pandemic the same time we had a pandemic

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this century. Last century, we had what was called the

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Roaring twenties, which is what has been called this century.

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Last century, we also had the Great Depression. Unfortunately could

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be head in that way. However, after that we had

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the Great Boom again. So everything goes in cycles and

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everything changes, and now more than ever with technology, and

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that's why it's more than ever. Don't worry about your

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past in negative ways, pivot and live life to the

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fullest in every single way. Now I'll shut up.

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Well, there's so many threads that I'd like to pull.

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The first one that I think is so profound is

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you can't really know when you're eighteen, twenty eight, thirty eight,

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any of the eight you know what's going to happen

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in the next two to five years. And so this

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idea of pivoting follow in your heart and your head.

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Would I would say, when I've made my best decisions

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in life, I brought those two brains, if I can

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call it that, the gut brain the heart and gut

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to the head. Can you speak a little bit too,

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when you first realize that you know financial planning and

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some of the acting stuff that you did, and where

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you saw the opportunity looking seeing around the corner of

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this pre streaming, pre podcasting world, that you were really

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a pioneer, and how did you pick up on those signals?

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Because I think there's some lessons that we can learn

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from pioneers like yourself. Given all of the disruption that's happening,

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there's opportunities to be a pioneer. Again in this current age, there's.

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Always opportunities to be a pioneer. And all the things

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that I did weren't necessarily to bring me on a

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certain road. Some of them are just because you want to,

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Some of them are just a knowledge junkie. Some of

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them you collect certifications and stuff like that, like baseball cards. Okay,

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and that's me, sure you know, But so the thing

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is is okay, so we'll tell you there was an

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evolution I've been a salesperson since eleven years old. I

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used to be in the pool and spa business and

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basically mainly spas to begin with in southern California, and

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did faars and mall shows and events all over southern

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California selling hot tubs what we call spas. People like

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to call them hot dubs, but hot tubs are a

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specific type. But and that was because my dad was

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in the business, which he's right behind me right over here.

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That's him in the background on the one oh one

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Freeway where he had this beautiful spa store and landscaped

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area with gazebos and spas that used to be just

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a dirt lot, and it beautified the town of what

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was then called Agura, California. Uh that became a Goura Hills, California.

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And everybody knows about Goura Hills because they all know

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about the Kardashians that live in Calabasas right next door.

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But back then he was fighting. That's what that article

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is about. He had to fight the city because he

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beautified an area and they wanted him to take it

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all down and bring it back to nothing. There. Now

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twenty twenty six, I go there and it's a bunch.

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It's not only still a bunch of weeds and ugliness,

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but it's a whole auto mechanic center. So I guess

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that's better. I don't know, but so he's where I

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got my sales ability, some of my business abilities, some

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of the things not to do. But also the personality,

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the pipe man personality for sure comes from him and

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from doing that that carnye type of life back back then.

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It's funny because I look some pictures from back then,

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I'm like, oh man, that's so me. Everybody should have it.

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Everybody should have the advantage of doing a ghost of

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Christmas past to their past and they'll find out fifty

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years later they're the same person. They're just evolved. Like,

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don't tell me you changed. Nobody changes, They evolve. Okay,

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every part of your life becomes a part of you.

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And that answers your question because everything, even though not related,

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led me to where I am today. So that part basically.

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Now I go on tour and I do you know,

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media coverage at music festivals and events, I do live

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broadcast for the station. That stuff came from those days. Okay,

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now step forward a little bit. I go back to

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New Jersey to go to college. And while I'm going

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to college, I'm wre in the beginning of it, imaging

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this store called Harrow's in New Jersey that's from Long Island,

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and there's like eight stores and it's a pool, spa, patio, furniture, brills,

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you know, all the summer stuff during the summer and

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during the winter it would be a Christmas store, which

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I'm a Jew. So people used to ask me which tree.

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I don't care. I make five bucks commission pick the

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tree that you want, but the pulls and spaes. Okay.

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So I was in retail for ten years basically. And

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you know that's also where I get work ethic from,

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because in retail you have a serious work ethic. You're

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working every holiday, you're working every weekend, you're working every night.

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You're working sixteen hours a day. It's thankless. Most of

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the time people are jerk offs in retail store, especially

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Christmas time, people are not jolly at all. That is

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the myth of the century. Okay, just one quick story.

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There were these trim called Annalie dolls. They were so popular.

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They were collectors and they would go out like right

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away in the store. And I used to witness women

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in a Christmas store for the jolliest time of the year,

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playing tug of war, beating the crap out of each

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other because that last piece of anali trim. Okay, it's silly,

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and that brings me today, look at how we're being today.

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It's the same thing. It hasn't gone away. So now.

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I had a brother who worked for Prudential Insurance Company

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of America, the largest financial institution in the world and

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at that time, and he kept trying to convince me

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to come over there. I was in my comfort zone. Man.

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I was manager at this store. I could do whatever

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I want. I was in charge. I was with my

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friends there. I was making a decent living. Say that again,

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you go surfing when the surf was up? No, that

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never any surfing. I didn't have time. I was always

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at the store. Store is always open, they called it.

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But it was more about being in a comfort zone,

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as most of us are in certain careers or something

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we've invested time in. Invest ten years time in something

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you don't want to leave it, you know, then you

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feel like that ten years is a waste of time,

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or you just are so comfortable that you can't bust

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out of that comfort zone and you live that same

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life for the rest of your life, and some people do.

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I don't know what the trigger was. I can't remember

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because it wasn't that significant. But at one point I

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finally said, Okay, let me check it out, and I

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went in for an interview, and that started my entry

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into the financial business. No great thing. I didn't have

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anything bad at work. I didn't have any bad reason it.

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But you know, I wasn't in a comfort zone. And

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I was, you know, from eighteen till like twenty one,

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I was making thirty thousand a year in the late eighties.

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You know that that's that was good money. That's a

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lot of money for a college student. And I was

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going I was going to school full time at Rutgers,

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pointing seventeen credits a semester and working eighty hours a

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week at the retail store. And I was on mission.

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But then when I entered Prudential, I did step it up,

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but I had to step out of my comfort and

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comfort zone to do it. I left something I knew

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my whole working life, and that was supporting my college education.

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Because nobody was helping me. I you know, listen, I

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lived on the streets. I brought myself off the streets.

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00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:23.839
I paid my way through college by working eighty hours

458
00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:28.200
a week. Okay, now, yes, we're just going to pause

459
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that for a sec.

460
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Pause it, and we want to come back to the

461
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Prudential story and then to the story of Talk four

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Media after this shortbreak.

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473
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Captain Dave, your personal Regenerator.

474
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:39.880
Welcome back if you're just now joining us. My guest

475
00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:43.839
is Dean K. Piper cst aka the pipe Man with

476
00:29:43.960 --> 00:29:47.759
the Coolest Shades ever, and we've been chatting a little

477
00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:51.400
bit about some pivots when he was a young laddie

478
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:54.559
raised himself basically from just.

479
00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:55.720
A couple of years ago.

480
00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:58.240
Just a few years ago. You started when you were twelve,

481
00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:02.759
and uh loved working in retail, although not so much

482
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:07.799
the long hours, but learn learned how to deal with customers,

483
00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:11.240
both good, bad, and I really as well as you

484
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:15.359
know the sales skills and having experienced the buying side

485
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:19.279
of your selling mastery. I would say you brought a

486
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:22.799
lot of that I suspect into this next part of

487
00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:26.880
your story, which was the financial world. So you join prudential.

488
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:30.880
Yeah, and let me just say that we all bring

489
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:33.960
everything and add more to our bag of tricks, right,

490
00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:37.680
like you know some things you don't even know. Like

491
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:40.279
a lot of people are like, oh, no, I ever

492
00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:45.160
read take algebra. I never have to use en life, Like, yes,

493
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:48.400
you do every single day. You may not realize you are,

494
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:51.799
but every single day you're using it. You're using geometry too.

495
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:54.319
I love the people say that because they're saying it

496
00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:59.759
while they're at a billiard bar shooting pool and they

497
00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:04.240
say both stupid to take geometry. Hello, maybe that's why

498
00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:09.079
you stink and pool. But you know, back to our

499
00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:13.440
story is like, you know, so I was only at

500
00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:18.799
Prudential for a year because I ended up the top

501
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:24.519
agent have a five agents. I was making more than

502
00:31:24.599 --> 00:31:28.319
twice what I was in the other business, working the

503
00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:32.559
same hours though really, because in any business you reap

504
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:34.839
what you sew and you have to put the time in.

505
00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:39.519
The difference was in the retail business that that time

506
00:31:39.599 --> 00:31:41.839
at the store was also social time. And I think

507
00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:44.119
a lot of people do that. They steal their social

508
00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:47.079
time at work, and there's something to be said to

509
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:50.519
have both, okay and have them separate. I'm a total libra.

510
00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:53.319
You need a little balance, even though I've been unbalanced.

511
00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:56.000
You need a little bit of balance, okay. And it

512
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:59.200
can't just revolve around work, even if it is social

513
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:03.880
and fun. Okay, it's still work. You know. It's like

514
00:32:03.920 --> 00:32:08.000
when people say certain things to me and I just

515
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:11.599
say to them, yeah that when they say to me like, oh,

516
00:32:11.680 --> 00:32:15.839
I do it because you know this is my fun. No,

517
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:18.480
you don't, because if you weren't getting paid, there's probably

518
00:32:18.519 --> 00:32:21.400
something else like surfing you'd be doing, you know. And

519
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:25.240
so the point is I want to tell people how

520
00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:27.720
much I was a workaholic, but not say that as

521
00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:31.799
it's a great thing. It's partially a good thing. It's

522
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:33.960
partially a good thing if you are living life to

523
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:37.119
the fullest. I do want to add that. So, but

524
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:39.839
what happened to me was, you know, when you're that

525
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:43.200
young and you're making that kind of money, your friends

526
00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:45.799
really can't hang out with you or do the things

527
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:48.759
you want to do. And back then, I'm like, now,

528
00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:51.440
the credit card companies, they're just throwing credit cards at anybody.

529
00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:53.200
So I was twenty one years old, I had thirty

530
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:55.640
five credit cards and triple A credit rating. I could

531
00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:57.920
walk in anywhere and get credit in two seconds. The

532
00:32:57.960 --> 00:33:00.640
problem is, don't give a twenty one year old thirty

533
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:03.920
five credit cards. Because what ended up happening is, you know,

534
00:33:03.960 --> 00:33:05.920
I would ta I was the big sport, taking my

535
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:09.279
friends doing stuff because otherwise they couldn't do with me

536
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:12.079
they could afford. So take them out for dinner at

537
00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:14.880
Tavern on the Green, get like a twenty five hundred

538
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:20.000
dollars dinner tab or something like that. And so basically

539
00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:23.079
I ended up spending one hundred and fifty thousand even

540
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:25.680
though I was making seventy thousand. And then I won

541
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:28.799
this trip, you know, because I was the top agent

542
00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:34.039
to Marco Island, Florida, and my dad lived in Florida too,

543
00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:37.119
So I went down, came down to Florida. There was

544
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:40.839
a Nor'easter going on. In New Jersey. I was talking

545
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:43.599
to some attorney that was telling me go bankrupt because

546
00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:46.279
I was screwed up my credit so bad. That was

547
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:49.200
bad advice too. By way, do your own research on stuff,

548
00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:54.839
because it was bad advice, but still it happened. That's

549
00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:57.160
an hard thing things happened to you in life. You

550
00:33:57.200 --> 00:33:59.599
have bad advice, or you do things, you still have

551
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:04.480
to take control instead of taking casting blame and change it.

552
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:08.960
So that's exactly what I did. I was down at

553
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:12.880
Shooters in Fort Laurdell sipping the margarita with my dad

554
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:15.519
while there was a Northeastern New Jersey not a care

555
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:17.679
in the world. While I was going to return to

556
00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:21.079
New Jersey with you know, this thing over my head

557
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:27.719
of financial blah blah blah, and I decided. I looked

558
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:30.000
at my dad and I'm like, what the hell am

559
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:34.239
I doing in New Jersey? Next pivot? Okay, you don't

560
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:36.440
have to have a reason, you don't have to have

561
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:41.000
a plan. Sometimes you just do it and I went

562
00:34:41.119 --> 00:34:44.599
back to my seventy thousand dollars a year job, quit

563
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:49.760
that job, got in my car with all my belongings

564
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:54.239
that was left, and drove to Florida immediately when I

565
00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:59.760
got back. Now, bad things can happen, okay, and even

566
00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:02.199
in in that situation, bad things are happening, So you

567
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:05.679
got to pivot at every possible point. I figured why

568
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:07.639
I got to Florida, I would just go work at

569
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:09.920
a Prudential down there. But what I found out is

570
00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:12.280
Prudential is a pre scummy company and the people that

571
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:14.639
work there are pre scummy, which I already knew, which

572
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:17.559
was part of the reason I was quitting. And basically,

573
00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:20.280
my sales manager lapsed off all my business so he

574
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:23.119
could give it to another agent so he can make

575
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:29.440
more commission. And I was now unhireable because apparently I

576
00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:32.760
screwed the company over by him lapsing all that insurance

577
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:34.440
off and then losing all that money en f to

578
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:39.440
pay double commissions. That's cool, because the world works a way,

579
00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:43.159
in the universe works a way that there's always opportunities,

580
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:47.320
and don't focus on the disasters, focus on the opportunities.

581
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:49.239
And that's when I saw this ad in the paper

582
00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:52.320
that said make one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars

583
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:55.480
a year. And I went on that job interview and

584
00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:58.360
I was told I'd make twenty grand a month, and

585
00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:02.119
there were it was a brand new brokerage firm with

586
00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:06.320
no brokers and no deaths. And I believed them wholeheartedly

587
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:08.400
because I was in my young twenties and I wasn't

588
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:12.639
old enough to be skeptical. I wasn't old enough to

589
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:16.480
have paralysis of analysis. I wasn't old enough to be

590
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:21.199
anything else but naive and just simply believe. Believing in

591
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:26.000
yourself and believing in your path and believing in everything

592
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:29.079
is what gets you to the Promised Land. That doesn't

593
00:36:29.159 --> 00:36:33.599
mean blind faith either. It just means believing and how

594
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:37.320
what your mind can believe the mind can conceive. And

595
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:42.119
that's exactly what happened. My father got very indignant with me,

596
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:44.440
and why don't you get a real job and stop

597
00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:46.800
trying to conquer the world, And maybe you should make

598
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:49.159
enough money to eat, not make twenty thousand a year.

599
00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:51.440
I had a brother that got in a fistfight with

600
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:55.320
me over it, like, stop stop living the dream world.

601
00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:57.119
Why don't you get a real job? Blah blah blah

602
00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:00.559
blah blah. Well, I use that as fire, by the way,

603
00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:03.320
use things like that as fire. There's a lot of

604
00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:06.039
you talked about social media. There's a lot of negativity

605
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:08.519
on social media, and there's a lot of trolls, and

606
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:11.119
there's people that want to tell you shouldn't do something,

607
00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:15.880
can't do something, aren't capable all these things, And don't

608
00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:18.840
listen to outside chatter. Listen to all your voices in

609
00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:20.760
your head. There may be many at times there are

610
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:23.920
for the pipe man, but listen to them all. Okay,

611
00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:29.320
forget the outside chatter. Because I went in there with bankruptcy,

612
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:33.559
no money, not enough to eat, no salary, no draw

613
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:38.599
no guarantee, no benefits, no nothing, And within one month

614
00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:41.320
I was making twenty thousand months, just like they told me.

615
00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:45.199
Forty nine other brokers working in that brokerage firm were

616
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:48.400
not Why because I didn't listen to the outside chair.

617
00:37:48.519 --> 00:37:50.480
I listened to my inside chatter, and I was going

618
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:53.039
to prove these other people wrong. And that started my

619
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:57.639
financial journey where I ended up owning my own brokerage firms,

620
00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:02.639
owning my own insurance agency, fifteen licenses, four professional designations,

621
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:10.400
including cfp ctacfs RIA, and I managed millions of dollars

622
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:14.239
of people's money. And then I had another pivot point

623
00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:17.159
in my life twelve years down the road that caused

624
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:21.000
me to make a decision. And my decision was walking

625
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:23.880
into my brokerage firm one day where I was making

626
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:26.760
one hundred and fifty grand a month and handing the

627
00:38:26.840 --> 00:38:29.559
keys to my top broker and saying it's all yours.

628
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:32.320
Pipe man, Why the hell did you do that? I'll

629
00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:33.880
wait for you to ask that question.

630
00:38:33.719 --> 00:38:35.480
Hepe man, why the hell did you do that?

631
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:39.320
Well, because I had a love hate relationship with the business,

632
00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:41.400
and you have to live life to your fullest and

633
00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:44.480
if you're not loving certain things, you have to change them.

634
00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:48.199
And basically, I love the money, I loved the action.

635
00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:52.519
I hated everything else in that business. It's a scumbago business.

636
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:55.840
It was a lot of fun, though it saw its time,

637
00:38:56.320 --> 00:38:59.760
and that's when I did something based on my dad's advice.

638
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:02.960
Well, and if I may add just a quick foot note,

639
00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:07.639
that was a question too. I think you're a creative person,

640
00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:10.960
and and yes, you can be creative in sales and

641
00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:14.320
all of that, but building something like you've done with

642
00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:19.239
the media empire. It's different building something than just moving

643
00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:23.599
numbers around and trading, which often.

644
00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:26.599
All of them were building something. That's the point. You're

645
00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:30.000
right on the money because each business I was in,

646
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:33.639
I was building something and you're building it for something more.

647
00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:36.880
And like, if you're not building, what are you doing?

648
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:38.039
Is my point?

649
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:40.800
Well, you're an employee often exactly.

650
00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:44.239
So, now that leads I had led to you, I

651
00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:46.719
give you a queue to your next question. Do you

652
00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:48.320
remember what that question should be?

653
00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:53.360
Well, so this pivot that you saw after the financial plan,

654
00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:57.760
I suspect you saw a trend that others didn't see at.

655
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:01.199
A that'sn't the media yet wasn't to me yet. That's

656
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:04.719
why I said the next question would be, well, what

657
00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:06.599
was advice from your dad? Oh?

658
00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:07.880
Yeah, thank you? What was the advice?

659
00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:11.239
And it wasn't a specific advice at that given time.

660
00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:14.880
It's a line of his that he used to say,

661
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:20.199
a couple of his lines, this one is make a

662
00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:24.079
decision if it's wrong, change it. Now. This applied. That

663
00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:25.920
wasn't the one I was talking about, but this applied

664
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:30.400
to that scenario too. Okay, I made decision to build

665
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:35.400
that business. I changed that decision pivot. Okay, that's what

666
00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:38.800
pivot is. The Other thing that he always used to

667
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:43.239
say is if fifty people tell you you're drunk, lie down.

668
00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:49.320
And so, throughout my whole career of the financial business,

669
00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:53.039
you know, had always been into self help, motivational stuff

670
00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:55.920
that I lived it. Okay, I've gone to every seminar,

671
00:40:56.000 --> 00:40:59.840
read every book, all that stuff. And so when I

672
00:40:59.920 --> 00:41:01.800
was in the brokerage business, that's a big thing you do.

673
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:05.199
So I used to do meetings and I used to also,

674
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:10.840
you know, send all my brokers to motivational seminars. And

675
00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:12.840
they always used to say to me, I don't know

676
00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:16.480
why you send us these other seminars. You know, basically,

677
00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:19.840
you're better than they are. And throughout my whole career,

678
00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:22.800
people were saying, you should be a motivational speaker, you

679
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:26.119
should be a motivational speaker. And so fifty people told

680
00:41:26.119 --> 00:41:28.559
me that, and I lied down, And so I left

681
00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:33.559
the financial business and I pursued being a motivational speaker, coach, author,

682
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:37.360
which are all things I am now. Now. Both those

683
00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:41.760
two industries led me to where we are today. And

684
00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:44.800
so basically we're probably gonna have to do another part

685
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:49.039
because I've monopolized your show here with stories. But you

686
00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:53.800
know the thing is is that you know both of

687
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:57.880
those things prepared me for where I am now and

688
00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:02.079
gave me the vision because I was a host. When

689
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:04.079
I was in the financial business, I used to pay

690
00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:06.440
to have a radio show to get my leads for

691
00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:09.559
that business. When I was doing seminars, same thing, I

692
00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:13.239
promoted my movacial business. But I did see the writing

693
00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:16.239
on the wall. I saw the changes in media that

694
00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:20.199
were gonna happen during the time of the beginning of technology,

695
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during the worst economy in US history, I went through

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a whole bat I went through a whole bad scenario

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two again, a time to pivot in life. Went from

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making one hundred and fifty grand a month to making

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nothing and being homeless once again. No vehicle, no money,

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no business, no anything. And that's where I had the

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idea to start talk for Media Radio Network and to

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do streaming and podcasting before it was even a word.

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And I told people, just like Bill Gates told IBM,

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you're going to see people listening to radio in their

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cars on their phones. Didn't even I'm smartphones yet people

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follows nuts just like they told Bill Gates. He was nuts,

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and he sent a personal PC in every home and

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they said the mainframe would never go away. IBM is

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still suffering to this day because of that, and Microsoft

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became one of the biggest companies in the world. I

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saw the vision of media. I saw what we're doing

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right now before we were able to do this, you know,

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and basically built a network based on vision of the

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future and a pivot not only myself, but a pivot

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in the industry, because most of the people in this

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industry from before that time have what I call WKRP

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in Cincinnati syndrome. If you're old enough to know what

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that is. That's a TV show of a radio station.

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And these people live in that past that doesn't exist anymore.

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We are in the technology era. You must move on,

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you must pivot, You must move forward to live the

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life of your dreams.

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Mean, we definitely need to have you back before we do. Though.

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You and I were talking just before with Rebel our

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producer about kids next generation leaders. Maybe just two three minutes.

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You know that's going to be challenging for us both.

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But two to three minutes, what are those three kind

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of key takeaways that you would pass on to your

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own children, my son Ian, my daughter Katherine late Well,

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my son's thirty two, my daughter is twenty nine. You know,

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that's a tough time for a lot of young people,

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and the housing is challenging, and cost of living is rising,

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and a college education doesn't seem to have the same

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return on investment, and this idea of pivoting and following

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your heart. Is there anything else that you wanted to

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add to that next generation that might be listening.

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I have a few things I would add real quickly.

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Number one is the fact of, you know what, we

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can't change the things going on. Stop worrying about the

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things you can't control. You can always control your attitude

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towards it. You can always control your actions towards it.

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And you know what, this is not different than any

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other time in history. Listen, my dad used to say,

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you used to get a corn meaf sandwich and doctor

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Brown's cream soda for a nickel. Well you can't anymore, dead,

746
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and you can't get three dollar gas anymore, sorry. You

747
00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:26.639
can't get a five hundred dollars apartment anymore, sorry, or

748
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a five hundred dollars car anymore. Sorry, But you can

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do something to pivot to still live the life of

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your dreams. Stop worrying about what you can't control, and

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control what you can and as your attitude and what

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you do. Okay, And my second thing is you gotta

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do whatever it takes. That's the bottom line. You can't

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sit around and complain about the things that you can't

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change and that you can't do. You can do anything

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you put your mind to. And you need to start

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thinking that way, and you need to pay it towards

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00:46:01.639 --> 00:46:04.920
stop worrying about what's wrong in the world and what's

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wrong with people, and start being blessed by what's right

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in the world and what's right with people, and what's

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right with you.

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Thank you, Thank you so much. So Gang, We've I

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love that clicking clack, that tapping. Brothers. We've squandered yet

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another near hour together, but I think we've been enlightened

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by the pipe man. I know I have. So next

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up next week's show is with my dear friend and

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coach Chris Rue. He's coming back for a second episode,

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number eighteen, and the theme will be the midlife Warrior

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Choose Reinvention. And I think our promise here is to

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how do people in midlife act more like Dean was

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talking about living in the moment, being present, being a realist,

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following your heart, pivoting towards the life of your dreams,

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and not getting stuck in your own negative self talk.

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But especially the chatter of the naysayers, the trolls, and

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everybody else that's on social media that can keep us

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all stuck. So I want to on behalf of Dean

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and Rebel and the entire Talk four media team. I

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hope you found value today. I know I did. Thank

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you for investing your valuabill time, consider reviewing if you

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took any notes and applying just one idea today to

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both deepen and accelerate your own personal or professional transformation.

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We are better together. So now let's regenerate.

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Thank you for listening to regenerate with Captain Dave on

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k for HD Radio. We invite you to give yourself

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grace and grace the messy middle. See you every Monday

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at nam Pacific time. Until then, you got this